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Fly Swap

Postby jwcustomflies » Dec Thu 08, 2011 1:07 am

Since i see a lot of you are either starting out ( and quite well i must add) or seasoned tyers , i was wondering if any of you were up for a Fly Swap ? We do it all time out here in Colorado on the coloradofisherman.com forum ( im silent_light there ) with great success and enthusiasm.

http://www.coloradofisherman.com/forum/ ... ic=38674.0

For those of you unfamiliar with this, heres how it works :

We get 10-12 tyers signed up
We pick a Theme or Style to tie ( ie: favorite fly, caddis, parachutes, hopper-dropper..)
Then we normally tie 2 to 6 flies of a single ( or double) pattern for each of the other tyers. So if there were 10 signed up, each person would then tie 18 flies total ( or more)

The originator of the swap is the Swap Meister, and handles the collection and distribution of the flies. THis is normally done via mail. However, in the past, we have met on the river and swapped there.

We're in the midst of doing a "Best Fly This Year" swap over on coloradofisherman, where we're trading our best pattern of the past year. Mine is a killer wired caddis pupa, works everywhere there is a hungry fish - betting it would do great in the Driftless ( HINT HINT!!)

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So, any of you up for having some good fun trading flies, tying ideas, etc ? Open to ALL abilities !

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Re: Fly Swap

Postby SJS » Dec Thu 08, 2011 8:28 am

I'm in :D
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Re: Fly Swap

Postby 1080tommy » Dec Thu 08, 2011 10:25 am

I am a total novice but would love to be involved. Just let me know what to do and when to do it!!!!
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Re: Fly Swap

Postby jrc56 » Dec Thu 08, 2011 10:54 am

That is a great looking fly. I don't tie yet but I would like to get my hands on a couple of those and check them out.
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Re: Fly Swap

Postby WrenchingnFishing » Dec Thu 08, 2011 2:04 pm

I'm not the greatest at tying. But I'm all for it! :D
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Re: Fly Swap

Postby jwcustomflies » Dec Thu 08, 2011 8:08 pm

jrc56 wrote:That is a great looking fly. I don't tie yet but I would like to get my hands on a couple of those and check them out.


Send me a pm, or email at jwcustomflies@gmail.com - i'll do a bakers dz for $12, just let me know what colors/sizes you'd like.
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Re: Fly Swap

Postby jwcustomflies » Dec Thu 08, 2011 8:15 pm

Good, got some interest !!

Lets give the signup another week to let others join, and we;ll call it then or when we get to a maximum of 10 people.

As far as theme goes, i know some of you may be beginners or maybe only tie for specific needs, so how about we take a poll of what each of you is most interested in or most proficient at and go from there. This way we can accommodate everyone.

Lets do 3 flys for each person - ony fly pattern/size. THats makes it 27 flies tied by each person ( with 9 others tying ), 30 flies if you are tying some for yourself while youre at it. 3 flies makes it nice on the water and you've got the hot bug working, you'll have a backup and a sample.

Deadline for submission Jan 30, earlier if everyone is done before the deadline.

Please chime in with your ideas for a theme, and we'll vote !
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Re: Fly Swap

Postby SJS » Dec Thu 08, 2011 8:41 pm

I'll suggest a bass streamer theme.

I'd like tie either some fatal attractions or some marabou streamers tied matuka style.

As an after thought, I'd also enjoy a steelhead theme.
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Re: Fly Swap

Postby CMiller » Dec Thu 08, 2011 9:35 pm

I tie mostly for the lake but I'm sure my streamers would work for bass too.
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Re: Fly Swap

Postby WrenchingnFishing » Dec Thu 08, 2011 9:45 pm

SJS wrote:I'll suggest a bass streamer theme.

I'd like tie either some fatal attractions or some marabou streamers tied matuka style.

As an after thought, I'd also enjoy a steelhead theme.



I 2nd on the steelhead them. Some egg patterns and streamers :D

A Bass theme will be cool too!
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Re: Fly Swap

Postby SJS » Dec Thu 08, 2011 10:05 pm

Yeah I'd like to have a good set of steelhead flies so I can be armed and ready for my first steelhead outing. :D

But the bass flies I'm definitely more familiar with and would use more often so I'm kind of on the edge...
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Re: Fly Swap

Postby 1080tommy » Dec Thu 08, 2011 10:17 pm

I am in for whatever. I am just concerned that my tying may not be up to par with everyone else's. I guess you gotta learn sometime. I will do my best and see what I can come up with once the final patterns have been selected. I guess now I gotta buy some fly gear for next year. I see another addictive hobby coming up!!!!! :D
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Re: Fly Swap

Postby jwcustomflies » Dec Thu 08, 2011 10:40 pm

Tommy,

THese swaps are never aimed at being great, they are about learning and sharing ideas, tips, techniques... theres always a huge variation in abilities. Just tie what you like to, and take a little something away to help you do better.
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Re: Fly Swap

Postby WrenchingnFishing » Dec Thu 08, 2011 10:58 pm

This gives me a reason to practice some more steelhead tube flies. :) I know bps and cabelas hold fly tying events too. I wa.t to check it out and learn to tye some new patterns. It is also great for the beginners. I'm excited to swap flies. I'm posting from my phone, so bare with me if anything is mis spelled
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Re: Fly Swap

Postby SJS » Dec Mon 12, 2011 7:49 pm

Anyone else interested in this?
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Re: Fly Swap

Postby jwcustomflies » Dec Mon 12, 2011 10:09 pm

SJS wrote:Anyone else interested in this?


Hopefully, but lets take a roll call of those committed :

JWcustomflies
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Re: Fly Swap

Postby CMiller » Dec Tue 13, 2011 10:58 pm

I'm in
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Re: Fly Swap

Postby WrenchingnFishing » Dec Wed 14, 2011 1:24 am

Yup I'm in. I haven't been able to get on here lately. Been working like crazy now. At work but on my phone now. Will have time on the weekends to tie flies till work slows. Working 12 to 16 hour days now. :( it never ends.
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Re: Fly Swap

Postby 1080tommy » Dec Wed 14, 2011 10:32 am

Sorry for the late response but I would like to participate for sure. :thumbup:
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Re: Fly Swap

Postby SJS » Dec Wed 14, 2011 11:15 pm

Awesome, 6 people and I think Tallfishman1 is interested too so probably 7. Should we take a vote on the theme soon?
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Re: Fly Swap

Postby jwcustomflies » Dec Wed 14, 2011 11:36 pm

Absolutely, please post up any ideas each of you has, and we'll pick one
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Re: Fly Swap

Postby SJS » Dec Thu 15, 2011 5:16 pm

I'm going to have to put my vote towards bass streamers. How about everyone else?
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Re: Fly Swap

Postby CMiller » Dec Thu 15, 2011 8:45 pm

Streamers work for me too.
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Re: Fly Swap

Postby WrenchingnFishing » Dec Fri 16, 2011 4:41 pm

Streamers work :D
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Re: Fly Swap

Postby 1080tommy » Dec Fri 16, 2011 5:17 pm

I am good with streamers too!
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Re: Fly Swap

Postby jwcustomflies » Dec Fri 16, 2011 5:42 pm

Streamers it shall be !

Im in , will be tying the "Home Invader"
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Re: Fly Swap

Postby CMiller » Dec Fri 16, 2011 7:03 pm

I'll tie up emerald shiner clousers.
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Re: Fly Swap

Postby BrookfieldAngler » Dec Fri 16, 2011 8:05 pm

Do we have a date on this? Depending on that, I may be in. I have an attractor pattern that I want to start tying with.
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Re: Fly Swap

Postby SJS » Dec Sat 17, 2011 12:01 am

I was thinking about tying the fatal attraction, need to buy some more flashabou first.
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Re: Fly Swap

Postby WrenchingnFishing » Dec Sat 17, 2011 4:57 am

After going out tonight and talking with my good buddy I tie flies for so he can target snook down in Florida. I decided to do the bass streamer of a Clouser Minnow with bead eyes. I'm suggesting after Xmas we can start tying? If not, I will make time before then. What do you all think???
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Re: Fly Swap

Postby Hoffman » Dec Sat 17, 2011 9:13 am

If I buy a vise I would like to be a part of this.

Where do you guys order your materials?

what books would you recommend for a beginner?
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Re: Fly Swap

Postby jwcustomflies » Dec Sat 17, 2011 5:15 pm

Hoffman wrote:If I buy a vise I would like to be a part of this.

Where do you guys order your materials?

what books would you recommend for a beginner?


Number one book i'd recommend is "Charlie Cravens Basic Fly Tying" , nothing better for the new tyer.

I have numerous fly shops out here, so i rarely ever order anything, got wayyyy too much stock already :)
However ... Feather-Craft and J. Stockard are the only ones i deal with if i can't talk Charlie into special ordering for me.
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Re: Fly Swap

Postby jwcustomflies » Dec Sat 17, 2011 5:18 pm

WrenchingnFishing wrote:After going out tonight and talking with my good buddy I tie flies for so he can target snook down in Florida. I decided to do the bass streamer of a Clouser Minnow with bead eyes. I'm suggesting after Xmas we can start tying? If not, I will make time before then. What do you all think???


Well, since we only have... 7 tyers, how about Feb 1 for a deadline ? Plenty of time to tie a couple dozen - thats less than 1 a day !

So the Updated Swap is this :

Theme : Bass Streamers

Deadline for submissions : Feb 1, 2012

The Players :

JWcustomflies
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Hoffman (?)

Number of flies : with this small group, how about 3 flies per tyer ( you'll have a backup on the water plus pattern sample )
With 7 tyers, each tyer will submit a total of 18 flies - one color/pattern/size.
Swap Master will divide the flies and re-send them to the tyers via USPS.

-YOU- need to : Package your flies well
Use an old flybox, or similar, big enough to accommodate the returning batch of flies safely.
Enclose a self-addressed envelope, postage paid, with your flies - big enough to hold your box !
Each tyer will receive sets of 3 flies from each tyer in return.

To make things easy on postage, do one of you want to take the responsibility of recieving flies so you all don't have to send them out here to Colorado ? If not, i can do it no porblem - normal for Den - Chi is about 3-4 days.



Hoffman, jet us know if you are going to be able to do this, glad to have another !
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Re: Fly Swap

Postby TheWoz » Dec Sun 18, 2011 9:07 am

How did I not see this post! I want more flies!! Lol :)
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Re: Fly Swap

Postby Hoffman » Dec Sun 18, 2011 9:11 am

JW can you recommand a quality vise in say the $50 - 150 range? I would mostly be tying buss bugger type flys.

BTW thanks for the help with all the newbie questions.
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Re: Fly Swap

Postby jwcustomflies » Dec Sun 18, 2011 6:31 pm

TaterToT wrote:JW didn't you have a vice for sale?


Id o , my old DanVise with extension arm - $50. I dont have a pedestal base for it, bot you can get one for $10. Heck of a vise for cheap/newbies, also plenty good for professional use as well. Jaws are excellent.

Lets see.... Vises are sort of a niche thing in a way - totally depends on what you plan to tie, how big your hands are ( sausage fingers) etc..

Id reccomend the 720 Vise of course, but its retail price is double your high limit. If you are a fan of Dry flies ( parachutes/ extended bodies ) this is THE vise for you especially !

For $50 - $150, you are kind of limited. At your high end, the Renzetti Traveller would top the list, as would Peak Vises ( colorado made) . Near the middle range is the Anvil Apex Vise and DanVise. The low end, is low end Thompson style vises, usually found is the Wapsi kits, which are usually total crap.

The lst of what NOT to buy... Dyna-King - frustrating and bulky. Griffin - not very stable and wear fast. Regal - best used as a hook shooter.

If you plan to tie a lot, id highly recommend buying the best vise you can, you'll not regret spending the extra coin.
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Re: Fly Swap

Postby Charged » Dec Sun 18, 2011 8:39 pm

I'd build a few of these, and enter the swap if any one is interested.
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..... I haven't fished much with streamers much and don't know how it will work, but I have caught my largest bass on a epoxy minnow which has a similar profile.

Let me know if it's a go. I'll spice up the basic design to the best of my abilities. (glass rattles, custom eyes ext., I'll do my best....).

I don't know, out of the guys who have already committed, would any of you be interested in this fly joining the swap?
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Re: Fly Swap

Postby tallfishman1 » Dec Sun 18, 2011 10:25 pm

I will be in the fly swap. Is it ok if i just tie wolly buggers?
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Re: Fly Swap

Postby Charged » Dec Sun 18, 2011 10:46 pm

I have 5 bottle caps ready to go.
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Re: Fly Swap

Postby Charged » Dec Sun 18, 2011 11:11 pm

sorry for the double.
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Re: Fly Swap

Postby BrookfieldAngler » Dec Mon 19, 2011 8:06 am

I'm out. I don't think I'll be up and running by February 1st since i will be out of town the second half on January. I am in for the next one though!
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Re: Fly Swap

Postby SJS » Dec Mon 19, 2011 10:56 am

Dyna-King - frustrating and bulky


I'm curious, which model did you not like? I tried out my friend's dyna-king and was thoroughly impressed.

I don't know, out of the guys who have already committed, would any of you be interested in this fly joining the swap?


Definitely
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Re: Fly Swap

Postby Hoffman » Dec Mon 19, 2011 11:32 am

I did a little bit of online research before asking what vise you recommend. I was leaning toward the Peak.

Here's a couple links for anyone thinking of getting a "inexpensive" vise.

http://www.flyfishohio.com/Vise%20Revie ... ot-Out.htm

http://questoutdoors.net/gear/tested/traveler/

http://www.flyanglersonline.com/prorevw/peakvise.php

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Re: Fly Swap

Postby tallfishman1 » Dec Mon 19, 2011 12:23 pm

Is it alright if i participate in this or is it too late? I have tried to post on this for a couple days now and it hasn't worked. I could tie wolly buggers since clousers are taken. Is that alright?
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Re: Fly Swap

Postby tallfishman1 » Dec Mon 19, 2011 12:54 pm

[/quote]The lst of what NOT to buy... Dyna-King - frustrating and bulky. Griffin - not very stable and wear fast. Regal - best used as a hook shooter.[/quote]
I have a dyna king vice and like SJS said i am happy with it.
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Re: Fly Swap

Postby jwcustomflies » Dec Mon 19, 2011 11:03 pm

SJS wrote:
Dyna-King - frustrating and bulky


I'm curious, which model did you not like? I tried out my friend's dyna-king and was thoroughly impressed.

I don't know, out of the guys who have already committed, would any of you be interested in this fly joining the swap?


Definitely


Well, its just my own opinion after trying out their entire series. I found them to be too big, the jaw adjustment is cumbersome, takes too much to get the tension right. And for what they charge, forget it. I suppose im admittedly a touch biased, but that comes from experience. Its totally a ford/chevy....sage/winston thing. You have the products because you like them, and there is nothing wrong with that. The majority of my tying is Sz 14-30, so i like smaller jaws with ample room to work - Dyna King doesnt have that IMO. If you are tying larger flies, say #10 - 4/0, a large vise is for you.
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Re: Fly Swap

Postby jwcustomflies » Dec Mon 19, 2011 11:04 pm

tallfishman1 wrote:Is it alright if i participate in this or is it too late? I have tried to post on this for a couple days now and it hasn't worked. I could tie wolly buggers since clousers are taken. Is that alright?


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Re: Fly Swap

Postby jwcustomflies » Dec Tue 27, 2011 8:29 pm

Nearly done, looks complicated but is a real easy tie

Coming soon to invade your flybox, the Home Invader :

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Re: Fly Swap

Postby tallfishman1 » Dec Wed 28, 2011 10:28 am

jwcustomflies wrote:Nearly done, looks complicated but is a real easy tie

Coming soon to invade your flybox, the Home Invader :

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That looks awesome!!!!!
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Re: Fly Swap

Postby jwcustomflies » Jan Wed 04, 2012 11:55 pm

Ok folks, less than a month left ! Just finished my flies, wondering who else has ?

Just a refresher :

Due Date Feb 01

Send flies with a self-adressed return envelope enclosed including pre-paid postage.

Package your flies well !! Best to use a flybox capable of holding all the flies being sent back to you safely.

Heres my thought - to save you guys a bunch of postage, would one of you be willing to collect the, split them up, and re-send them ? Im in colorado, so postage would be $2-4 each way and normally takes 3-5 days each way.
I have no problem doing it, just trying to save you all a little cashola. If you prefer i did it, ill send everyone a PM with my mailing address.

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